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How about a SQL Yoga course for Idiots?

Tim Franklin
asked this on March 01, 2010 15:04

I have to preface this with the intent that I do not think anyone here is an idiot, just that the communication methods of NASA Scientists, are unlikely to be understood by the janitor, working in the same building...

Having said that the series of popular books, how to do just about anything even if your an idiot, could be helpful to some that just do not speak the same language as the very highly educated, much in the same way I have a conversation with someone concerning Javascript and JAVA and trying to explain the differences between them.

Most people that have little or no understanding of web development languages, do not and perhaps cannot understand the explanation that I give them, perhaps in only a general way if at all.

The point I want to make here is that these people are for the most part professional's Real Estate Agents, Corporate Management, even sole Props, and other business men and women who have for the most part been successful in running a brick and mortar business.

Now, reverse this for a moment, Lets take the experience level they have achieved, which is completely different than my experience, if they tried to explain how their experience in human behavior enables them to spot a potential problem employee before they ever hire them.

Trying to understand a life time of human behavior experience in judgement would be to me like javascript is to them.

A difficulty in understanding would ensue.

The point I want to make here is that neither person in this example is an idiot nor are they of less intelligence.

The ideas set forth here are designed to show that communication between educated adults can at times be difficult to understand.

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So I ask this question, how many people here would be interested in a step by step, So easy to understand that even a cave man could do it, type course, or instruction manual, a real world example of using SQL yoga in a simple real world application.

I say this because after examining the very well meaning docs, I was lost in trying to understand, and apply even the most simple, application, for example, an application that stores a URL, one after the other, from a form interface.

Now that would be something I would be interested in doing, managing a list of URLs then later querying those same URLs in order of search value.

I ask this because, I find it difficult to understand the documentation, and I think that perhaps there are others here that might benefit from a more layman approach to working and integrating SQL yoga into an application.

 

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Trevor DeVore
Blue Mango Learning Systems

Hi,

Let's see if we can get you up and running one way or another.

I'm not looking to add a whole other manual at this point but I am trying to add to/improve the general how-to manual.

To begin, have you been through the primer stack in the How-To manual?

The Primer Stack

If so, do the concepts discussed in the primer stack make sense (creating a Database object, connecting to the database using a Connection object and retrieving a record using a SQL Query object)? If not, at which point are you getting confused?

If the primer stack concepts make sense then does this lesson on creating a record in a database table make sense (just added)?

How Do I Create Records In a Database Table Using a SQL Query Object?

If not, what questions do you have after reading it?

Also, it would be helpful to know how familiar you are with Rev and SQL.

March 02, 2010 10:03
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Tim Franklin

Thank you, I will take a second look,

I wanted to see if there were others like myself that had a hard time understanding the docs, I think there are, but I do appreciate your efforts, no one could say that you guys dont try because your company is one of the best as far as I am concerned.

Tim

March 02, 2010 10:17
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Trevor DeVore
Blue Mango Learning Systems

Programming docs are a tricky thing. You have a number of variables that you have to take into account that you don't have to worry about when documenting traditional software. With SQL Yoga the following variables are present:

1) Does the person know how to program at all?

2) Does the person know how to program in Rev and understand Rev concepts?

3) Does the person know anything about databases?

4) Does the person know anything about SQL?

5) Will the person understand how to use an object based approach that is delivered through a procedural library API?

So I create docs as users need them. The To-Do app is for GLX App Framework users who need to know how to use the library. This is an advanced manual for sure but one I had to make for some customers.

I'm trying to shape the general manual into one that takes care of new users though. Just keep asking questions and I will keep adding content :-)

March 02, 2010 10:22